Understanding the Expanding Talcum Powder and Asbestos Litigation

The original Asbestos litigation began with a small number of defendants and grew to become the largest product liability litigation in history. MTN believes the Talcum Powder litigation may expand in similar manner. This article will focus on potential retailer liability in the expanding Talcum Powder litigation.

If you did not read our prior article, click here to get up to speed: Will the Recall of J&J Baby Powder Breathe New Life into Asbestos Litigation?

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On October 18, 2019, the FDA announces that Johnson and Johnson has recalled a single lot of its Talcum powder after https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/baby-powder-manufacturer-voluntarily-recalls-products-asbestos

“Since 2018, the FDA has been conducting an ongoing survey of cosmetic products for asbestos and to date has tested approximately 50 cosmetic products. As part of this testing, two samples of Johnson’s Baby Powder were tested: one sample from lot #22318RB was found to be positive for asbestos a second Johnson’s Baby Powder sample, lot #00918RA, tested negative for asbestos.”



The FDAs method of testing sample from individual lots of Baby Powder is akin to pulling the pin on a sample of hand grenades from a box, and determining that the entire box are all “duds” because no grenade from which the pin was pulled blew up and killed everyone in the room.

The only way to be certain that any given bottle of baby powder sitting on a retail shelf or on the bathroom counter of a Talc user is completely free of asbestos would be to test every single bottle.





After the FDA announced the single lot voluntary recall of one lot of J&J Talcum Powder, major retailers, including Walmart, Target, CVS and Right aide began pulling 22-ounce bottles of J&J Talc from their shelves. The recall involved this size bottle of Talcum Powder.




The short answer to the above question is that retailers have no means by which to know if the Talcum Powder remaining on their shelves, do not also contain asbestos.

Although retailers are already potentially liable under a “Strict Liability”  theory form simply conveying these products into the stream of commerce, one could argue, that with all that is now known, these retailers crossed the line into “negligent liability” when they failed to pull all Talcum Powder products from

Putting Aside the evidence that Talc itself can cause cancer, including but not limited to Ovarian Cancer, this article will focus on why every retailer that offers Talc Products should know that it is more likely than not, that every bottle of Talc they sell, contains asbestos and why retailers should assume the foregoing to be true.


Understanding the Link Between Talc and Asbestos

Asbestos is a commercial name assigned by industry to a group of minerals. The most common type of asbestos found in commercial products is Chrysotile Asbestos.

Both Talc and Chrysotile Asbestos are formed from the same four basic elements. Magnesium (8th most common element in the Earths rust) , Silicon (Most Common Element in the Earths crust)  Hydrogen and Oxygen (in the form of water).

The elemental structure of Talc and Chrysotile Asbestos are nearly identical.

Talc Mineral: Mg3Si4O10(OH)2

Chrysotile Asbestos:  Mg3Si2O5(OH)4 (most common type of asbestos in commercial use)

All that is required for given Talc deposit to initiate formation of asbestos as well, is a change in the temperature of the water supply necessary for the formation of both minerals. It may be useful to think of the earth crust as a “mineral factory”. The same individual factories (deposits) that produce Talc can also produce Chrysotile Asbestos, all that is required for the naturally occurring Talc factor to being producing Chrysotile Asbestos is for someone (something) to change the thermostat.

Talc and Chrysotile Asbestos deposits form over thousands and in some cases, over millions of years. Earth is a highly thermodynamic planet, the temperature of any given water supply found in the earths crust if far more increase and decrease over these long periods of time versus remaining stable.

In that it is unlikely that any naturally occurring Talc deposit would not also contain some asbestos. Combine the foregoing with the fact that there is no practicable and economical means by which to separate Asbestos from Talc, it is reasonable to conclude that, it is more likely than not, that all Talc contains Asbestos.

Given that the foregoing is basic science and geology, easily understood by any high school student, it would be difficult for any retailer of Talcum Powder products to claim ignorance of the fact that it is highly probable that any given bottle of Talcum Powder on their shelves, likely contains Asbestos.

Which Grenade is live and which one is a dud?  Nobody knows. Would you want to be the one to pull the pin and find out?

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